Tam Sürüm Bilgini Göster : Putative Learning?


Omarhoca
7th November 2007, 02:58
Putative Learning ne demek? Şimdiden yorumlarınız için teşekkürler..

MehmetMamger
7th November 2007, 11:37
Bağlamı verebilir misin hocam?

Omarhoca
8th November 2007, 00:18
Bağlamı verebilir misin hocam?

hocam bağlam derken? Bir soruda çıktı şıklarda verilmişti. Hareketlerle öğrenmek diye birşeyler buldum özellikle çocuk öğretimi için uygulanıyormuş ama tam tatmin olamadım.

MehmetMamger
8th November 2007, 11:19
Bana bir metotmuş gibi gelmiyor hocam, yoksa duymuş olurduk. Belki de sistematik olmayan bir edinim şeklidir, öyle kendiliğinden falan gerçekleşen. Hangi derse ilişkin testte vardı acaba; kelime bir kavram ise ders kitabının indeksi içinde yer alır mutlaka.

Omarhoca
8th November 2007, 16:16
yaklaşım dersi ile ilgili bir soruda çıkmıştı. ben soruyu bulunca hemen yazarım sanıırm o zaman hatta soru sınavda sorulan garip sorulardan biriydi.

Ehveniser
9th December 2007, 03:35
sözde öğrenme??

doldur-boşalt tekniği? :p

öğrenmenin eylemle desteklenmemesi halinde ehem....

oldu mu hocam?

(eğitim psikolojisi kitabı okumaktan içim şişti bu aralar..)

Omarhoca
9th December 2007, 03:40
teşekkürler hocam TPR metodunu örnek gösterebilirmiyiz o zaman ya da CLL?

Ehveniser
9th December 2007, 03:48
ben daha oraya gelmedim ama "takrir yöntemi ile öğrenme" olabilir bence.

PS: eğitimci değilim ben....

KorayKaptan
9th December 2007, 04:24
teşekkürler hocam TPR metodunu örnek gösterebilirmiyiz o zaman ya da CLL?

Varsayılan veya herkes tarafından kabul edilen öğrenme.Learning Strategy de var derim ama şıklarda o yok sanırım.Hangi Kitaptan bu?

Sir Ümit
9th December 2007, 10:20
Bir de bir de putative should var. Bunla ilgisi olmasın.:p

Omarhoca
9th December 2007, 13:27
Olabilir tabi emin değilim ama:)

Omarhoca
9th December 2007, 13:28
Varsayılan veya herkes tarafından kabul edilen öğrenme.Learning Strategy de var derim ama şıklarda o yok sanırım.Hangi Kitaptan bu?

Hocam kitap değil bu iölp 3. sınıf final sorularında sorulan bir soruda şıklarde verilmişti ona binaen bende buraya taşımak istedim.

Omarhoca
9th December 2007, 13:31
Putative learning in which the intellectual and factual processes are the main intent of learning.

5. Which one is not a learning view of CLL?

A. interactional view
B. putative learning
C. behavioral view
D. holistic approach
E. whole-person learning


soruyuda buldum hehe:) sınavda sorulmuş bir soru doğru cevabada "a" demiş

Sir Ümit
9th December 2007, 15:17
The Interactional View theory was developed by Paul Watzlawick. It is the study of interpersonal relationships as a whole system. There are five axioms he developed to explain this system. I am going to give a brief overview of each axiom to help understand how the theory of Interactional View works.





Axiom #1 - One Cannot Not Communicate - Say that you are out on a date and are not having any fun at all. Your date is obviously having a lot of fun, so you do not want to be rude by blatantly telling them that you want to go home. So you tell your date that you feel like you are getting sick, and it might be better if you just go home. This is called the "symptom strategy". Unfortunately this usually results in communicating the message that you do not want to be with that person.

Axiom #2 - Human Beings Communicate Both Digitally and Analogically - Say you were at a party, you come home and your parents are waiting up for you because you are in past curfew. You walk in and you have obviously been drinking. You try to sober up and tell them that you were just talking with friends and lost track of time (digital communication). They know that you are lying because you are slurring and avoiding their eyes. (analogical communication) People are more likely to believe nonverbal communication then verbal communication.


Axiom #3 - Communication = Content+Relationship - In this axiom there are two elements. Content is actually what you say. Relationship is the tone or voice in which you say it. Say that you were talking to someone and you told them that everything is going great (content). That person will be less likely to believe you if you are saying this in a monotonous tone and have a frown on your face (relationship).


Axiom #4 - The Nature of a Relationship Depends on How Both Parties Punctuate the Communication Sequence - For instance, say that yesterday one of your friends said something about you that made you mad. They did not realize it at the time, but you went home upset about what they said. The next day when you see your friend you avoid them, and your friend figures out that you are mad but has no clue why you are. The point where you punctuate getting mad was when your friend made the offensive comment. The point where your friend punctuated you getting mad was the next day when you would not talk to them.


Axiom #5 - All Communication is Either Symmetrical or Complementary - My roommate last year and I used both symmetrical and complementary communication. We both had a lot of clothes, so we liked to borrow each other's. If I were to borrow a shirt from her, then she would have no problem borrowing one from me. Symmetrical communication entailed equal power. I owned the computer, so she would always ask me if it was ok if she could use it. She owned the TV, and if she was watching something, I would never ask her to turn it. Complementary communication depends on differences in power.

Sir Ümit
9th December 2007, 15:20
bunun dil öğretimde uygulaması nasıl oluyor onu merak ettim doğrusu?

Omarhoca
9th December 2007, 16:43
zaten doğru cevap "interactinal view" :)

Sir Ümit
9th December 2007, 23:39
Tamam cevap dedğiniz gibi. Dil öğretiminde nasıl uygulanıyor onu merak ettim.

KorayKaptan
10th December 2007, 01:59
CLL
lan. theory;combinatiıns of two views 1:structralism 2.interactional view

learning theory contrast with two kinds of lern. theory 1: putative learning ,in which the intell. and fact. proccess. are the main intent of learning

2:behavioral view:animal learning(passive)



-Whole persons and holistic are whooly learning I memorize them so if needed:)

Umarım bu soruyu çözmek için yeterlidir.

Omarhoca
10th December 2007, 17:25
Tamam cevap dedğiniz gibi. Dil öğretiminde nasıl uygulanıyor onu merak ettim.

belkide interactionistler ile bir ilgisi olabilir yani -modified interaction ile alakalı- onlara göre dil ancak karşılık konuşulrak gelişir. belki bununla bir ilgidi vardır.

KorayKaptan
11th December 2007, 02:34
belkide interactionistler ile bir ilgisi olabilir yani -modified interaction ile alakalı- onlara göre dil ancak karşılık konuşulrak gelişir. belki bununla bir ilgidi vardır.


Doğru.İnteractionist view'de kendi bilgisini başkalarına aktarmak olan intellectuel ve factual process(factual speaking) olmaz.Karşılıklı etkileşim olur.