"Modal" ları incelerken kafama takıldı da "dare to do " (cesaret etme ) modalının olumsuzu "daren't" şeklinde verilmiş. Peki 3. tekillerle ( he/she/it ) fiilde bir değişiklik oluyor mu?

He ........(dare) to go the haunted house by himself ( +)

She........(not /dare) to tell the truth to Jim (-)
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"Modal" ları incelerken kafama takıldı da "dare to do " (cesaret etme ) modalının olumsuzu "daren't" şeklinde verilmiş. Peki 3. tekillerle ( he/she/it ) fiilde bir değişiklik oluyor mu?

He ........(dare) to go the haunted house by himself ( +)

She........(not /dare) to tell the truth to Jim (-)
İlginiz için şimdiden teşekkürler...


Dare as a verb :

He dares to go
He doesn't dare to go
Does he dare to go?


Dare As a modal verb : (Only in negative and interrogative sentences)

He dare not go
Dare he go?

"I dare say is an exception"



The same rule applies for "need"

Dare as a verb :

He dares to go
He doesn't dare to go
Does he dare to go?


Dare As a modal verb : (Only in negative and interrogative sentences)

He dare not go
Dare he go?

"I dare say is an exception"




The same rule applies for "need"

Hocam açıklamalar için çok teşekkür ederim. Peki "daren't to do " ile onun 3. tekillerle kullanımı hakkında neler söyleyebiliriz?

emin degilim ama sanmam eger oyle tek basına olumsuz oluyosa butun zamirlere aynıdır neednt gibidir dişye dusunuyorum yani he or she or it darent

hımmmmm teşekkur ederim bende tam ogrenmiş oldum

Hocam açıklamalar için çok teşekkür ederim. Peki "daren't to do " ile onun 3. tekillerle kullanımı hakkında neler söyleyebiliriz?


"daren't to do" diye bir yapı hatırlamıyorum.

I don't dare to +verb
I daren't + verb
I dare not + verb

He doesn't dare to+verb
He daren't + verb
He dare not + verb


Hepsi bu.

Geçen günlerde sitemizde "modal kullanımları ve Türkçe karşılıkları" adında bir link yayınlandı.Yanılmıyorsam Seyfi Hoca nın sitesinden. "daren't" i orada gördüm.Ben de araştıracağım bu kullanımı.

Kolay gelsin.

emin degilim ama sanmam eger oyle tek basına olumsuz oluyosa butun zamirlere aynıdır neednt gibidir dişye dusunuyorum yani he or she or it darent

Haklısınız "needn't" gibi düşünülebilir kullanımı.Öyle düşününce daha açık oldu kullanımı şimdi.

Dosya ve kaynak paylaşımı kısmındaki "modal list" de rastladım "needn't" a vaktiniz varsa incelemenizi isterim

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Kili Hocam geçen forumda da aynı olay vardı. Neden sitede 5 dak tıklamayınca düşüyoruz olmuyor ama çarık çürük içinde kaldık

daren't to V1 diye bir kullanım yok bildiğim kadarıyla ama do not dare V1 var [ama NON-STANDARD]
I did not dare (to) go.

daren't to V1 diye bir kullanım yok bildiğim kadarıyla ama do not dare V1 var [ama NON-STANDARD]
I did not dare (to) go.

doesn't dare to - daren't

Dare, meaning have the courage to do something, can also be used in two ways:

* as an ordinary verb followed by an infinitive with to, with s in the third person singular and with questions and negatives formed with do

He never dares to criticise her for wasting money and she doesn't dare to interrupt him when he's working.
* as a modal auxiliary verb followed by an infinitive without to, with no third person singular s and with questions and negatives without do:

Dare she tell him what she thinks about him? She daren't say anything. He will only shout at her. "How dare you speak to me like that?" he will say.
Differences in use are not as fixed or clear cut between doesn't dare to and daren't as they are between doesn't need to and needn't, except in expressions or collocations such as:

* How dare you? > How dare you walk away when I'm talking to you?
* I dare you to… I dare you to go up to him and ask him for a date.
* I dare say… > I dare say you're pretty hungry after all that cycling.

In this last example, I dare say means I suppose.

Occasionally you will find mixed modal/ordinary verb structures, such as:

He didn't dare complain about the quality of the food.

Don't you dare! > Don't you dare throw that snowball at me!
Note that dare, like other modals, is never used in progressive form and need is not often used in progressive form:

I was driving as fast as I dared.

Are you driving into town today, Tom? Jack needs a lift.

Will you be needing any help with your homework?


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Need can be used in two different ways.

do not need to

On the one hand, it can be used as an ordinary verb and has the same forms as an ordinary verb. The third person singular ends with an s, and questions and negatives are formed with do. As an ordinary verb, need is normally followed by an infinitive with to:

He needs to see a doctor. Do you need to see one too? ~ No, I don't need to see a doctor. But I need a good rest.


You don't need to be over 21 to go into a pub in Britain, whereas in America you do.
In this sense, when we are talking about necessity, we generally prefer need to / do not need to.



needn't

In the other format, need behaves as a modal verb, like can, could, must should, etc. It has the same forms as modal auxiliary verbs: the third person singular has no s, questions and negatives are made without do. In this format, need is followed by an infinitive without to:

You needn't bother to change the sheets. I'll sleep in them later.

Need I lock the door when I leave? ~ No, you needn't. Sarah will be home soon.
In this sense, we are talking more about obligation and giving permission to someone not to do something. Note also that as a modal verb it is most commonly used in negative sentences and sometimes in questions.

In your examples, too, Christina, you are talking about obligation on the one hand, and necessity on the other. Compare the following alternatives to needn't and need to in the examples below:

You needn't come if you don't want to.
Don't feel obliged to come if you don't want to.


You don't need to be a genius to see that it is wrong.
You don't have to be a genius to see

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