Are Turkish Citizens good at something?
Is Turkish State good at something?
How do you know Turkish Citizens/Turkish State are/is not good at anything?
OR
We are good at many subjects but we do not want to see them?
Have you ever compared ?

ı cannot understand anything:(

l am at the age of 36 and for years l have been listening the story of how bad country we have and how bad people we are.
But sometimes something change and nearly the same people tells how great country we are.
And l found the reason of changing the idea.
If there is something we have to do we easly blame the State or our own people.
But If there is something already done we love to be proud of it.:confused:

ı cannot understand anything:(

l am sorry l am not able to make these lines more simple.

ı am sorry but ı am so angry so ı want to write in Turkish:(
çünkü millet olarak herşeyi kendimize göre çeviriyoruz.işimize gelene eyvallah gelmeyene güle güle.bizden bir şey isteniyorsa a neden yapılmamış ki önceden işte uyuyor devlet büyükleri falan filan diyoruz ama yapılacak olan şey bizim çıkarımıza ise hemen yerine getirirz malum önce can sonra canan!bir şey önceden yapılmışsa aman canım milletimiz çok zeki nasıl da düşünmüş falan.yeter ki bize dokunmasınlar,bize dokunmayan yılan bin yaşasın misali!ben yatayım rahatım bozulmasın kafamı çalıştırmayayım falan ya konuyu nasıl bağladın diyeceksiniz ama hep düşünmüşümdür neden matematik te ileri bir devlet olamadık neden matematikten nefret ediliyo acaba millet olarak kafamızı yormak mı istemiyoruz bir şeylere?

p.s:kimse alınmasın sözlerime sadece özeleştiridir,

ı am sorry but ı am so angry so ı want to write in Turkish:(
çünkü millet olarak herşeyi kendimize göre çeviriyoruz.işimize gelene eyvallah gelmeyene güle güle.bizden bir şey isteniyorsa a neden yapılmamış ki önceden işte uyuyor devlet büyükleri falan filan diyoruz ama yapılacak olan şey bizim çıkarımıza ise hemen yerine getirirz malum önce can sonra canan!bir şey önceden yapılmışsa aman canım milletimiz çok zeki nasıl da düşünmüş falan.yeter ki bize dokunmasınlar,bize dokunmayan yılan bin yaşasın misali!ben yatayım rahatım bozulmasın kafamı çalıştırmayayım falan ya konuyu nasıl bağladın diyeceksiniz ama hep düşünmüşümdür neden matematik te ileri bir devlet olamadık neden matematikten nefret ediliyo acaba millet olarak kafamızı yormak mı istemiyoruz bir şeylere?

p.s:kimse alınmasın sözlerime sadece özeleştiridir,

l think we think in the same road:)

l am at the age of 36 and for years l have been listening the story of how bad country we have and how bad people we are.
But sometimes something change and nearly the same people tells how great country we are.
And l found the reason of changing the idea.
If there is something we have to do we easly blame the State or our own people.
But If there is something already done we love to be proud of it

l think we think in the same road:)

l am at the age of 36 and for years l have been listening the story of how bad country we have and how bad people we are.
But sometimes something change and nearly the same people tells how great country we are.
And l found the reason of changing the idea.
If there is something we have to do we easly blame the State or our own people.
But If there is something already done we love to be proud of it


:) yes you are right:icon_tup:

beni de aranıza alır mısınız :( :o

ikinizin de söylediklerine tamamen katılıyorum.Hocam ben de 17 yaşındayım ve 17 yıldır aynı şeyler dönüyor sürekli insanlarımız kötüleniyor, aşağılanıyor hatta biz kendimiz aşağılıyoruz..

Hangimiz normalde "garip" olan bir olayı "Burası Türkiye burda normal" diyerek geçiştirmiyoruz, hangimiz başımız sıkışsa "Nerde bu devlet" diye haykırmıyoruz..Fazla yazmaya gerek yok çünkü aynı şeyleri yazacağım.Peki bu durumu düzeltmek, insanları bilinçlendirmek için ne yapılabilir daha doğrusu ne yapmalıyız?

Hello Özge,
Please switch your language to English. This is an only English thread. Thanks

By the way, the germans who killed the jews during wwII are called ''Nazis'', not Germans. But if a Turkish person kills somebody not of his/ her own race, then they say ''The Turks are barbarians.'' and the most bizarre of these is, unfortunately, we ourselves do not find that strange..!

By the way, the germans who killed the jews during wwII are called ''Nazis'', not Germans. But if a Turkish person kills somebody not of his/ her own race, then they say ''The Turks are barbarians.'' and the most bizarre of these is, unfortunately, we ourselves do not find that strange..!

That is one of the thing what l really want to ring the bell...

We do some good things.
But l would like to see how many of us can see those good things...:rolleyes:

Or
Haven't The Turkish Citizens done something good?
Something The Turkish Republic/Citizens Done.
1-We have got the country which was built by us not by helping others.
2-Turkish Army is one of the best army in the world.
3-Istanbul is the one of the best city in the world.

Or
Haven't The Turkish Citizens done something good?
Something The Turkish Republic/Citizens Done.
1-We have got the country which was built by us not by helping others.
2-Turkish Army is one of the best armies in the world.
3-Istanbul is the one of the best cities in the world.

I think they are aware of all these facts, but somehow they don't want to admit this. In their newspapers, news etc they usually mention the Turkey they want, not the actual one, and are making effort to achieve their goal, I think.

Or
Haven't The Turkish Citizens done something good?
Something The Turkish Republic/Citizens Done.
1-We have got the country which was built by us not by helping others.
2-Turkish Army is one of the best army in the world.
3-Istanbul is the one of the best city in the world.
4-Death rate rank: Turkey is 165th country and better than Canada, China, Russia, Israel...
5-HIV/AIDS - people living with HIV/AIDS we are not in the list and better than Luxemburg,Norway,New Zeland, Belgium, Germany, U.K., U.S.A. (We know %90 how many people have HIV!)

4-Death rate rank: Turkey is 165th country and better than Canada, China, Russia, Israel...
5-HIV/AIDS - people living with HIV/AIDS we are not in the list and better than Luxemburg,Norway,New Zeland, Belgium, Germany, U.K., U.S.A. (We know %90 how many people have HIV!)

But in terms of the value we give to women, we are behind even Pakistan! :eek:

In which terms is Istanbul one of the best cities in the world?

This is our problem Ekinny we even can not talk about our good things.
One of us ask the question as you did and makes us forget ... what we have got.
In many terms.
1-Culture.
2-Building.
3-Airport
4-Universities.
5-Trade.
6-
7-
8-
9-
Please fiil in the rest Ekinny:)

1-We have got the country which was built by us not by helping others.
2-Turkish Army is one of the best army in the world.
3-Istanbul is the one of the best city in the world.
4-Death rate rank: Turkey is 165th country and better than Canada, China, Russia, Israel...
5-HIV/AIDS - people living with HIV/AIDS we are not in the list and better than Luxemburg,Norway,New Zeland, Belgium, Germany, U.K., U.S.A. (We know %90 how many people have HIV!)
6-Airports : we are the 55th in more than 220 countries.

Sorry, I don't get your point. Does that prove that Istanbul is one of the best cities in the world?

For you never.

In Travelland Istanbul :
1 Sydney 87.62
2 Florence 87.14
3 Bangkok 87.11
4 Rome 86.64
5 Cape Town 84.88
6 New York 84.67
7 San Francisco 83.86
8 Venice 83.23
9 Istanbul 83.18
10 Santa Fe 83.08

7-We have the city which is on the two continents. And Thanks to Allah and The people and Atatürk it is still ours.
8-Atatürk, is our(republic) founder.

What is that list about and where did you get this from?

The world where you do not live:)

LONDON, England (CNN) -- Melbourne and Vancouver are the best cities in the world for expatriates to live in, according to a survey by the Economist Intelligence Unit.

And Istanbul is in first 100

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/10/04/world.cities/

Whatever, BBTÜRKAY Hoca,Teacher, whatever... :rolleyes:

As you see l add the Teacher, Hoca.
Please do not call me with my nick name at least add these id things;)
May be you do not respect me that is ok but respect my job.
Thanks.

Most of my Turkish friends who live in Germany, Belgium, France, U.S.A. etc.
They all want to come back and live in Turkey.
They say living in Turkey much easier.
They told many disadvantages about the countries they live in or left.

Turkey is the country which has 4 seas.
And It is the country where you can swim and ski at the same time.
And it is the country which contains many cultures.

It is the country: you can buy kilos of vegetables and fruit.

it is the country which the people never let you pay if you are a visitor/guest.

it is the country we all love no matter....

It is the country: you can buy kilos of vegetables and fruit.

Oh yes. In lise 2, we had a teacher from Canada, and she said in Canada, you can buy three ugly tomatoes for 1.50 liras. But in Turkey, you can buy 1 kilo for the same price... But nazar değdi, drought has started to show its effects, and I don't think the prices will be that low, from now on

Oh yes. In lise 2, we had a teacher from Canada, and she said in Canada, you can buy three ugly tomatoes for 1.50 liras. But in Turkey, you can buy 1 kilo for the same price... But nazar değdi, drought has started to show its effects, and I don't think the prices will be that low, from now on

RAMADZAN CAME WELLCAME:p

RAMADZAN CAME WELLCAME:p

I think it didn't came that well this year :D

I think it didn't came that well this year :D

And it is the country we love to help poor people !

And it is the country we love to help poor people !

In contrast to America, which left the African people hungury ( at least caused them to be so) !

We have issues which are not acceptable...

In our society there is a taboo against any sort of criticism. Whenever you criticise something, you are named with different nouns such as "solcu,kemalist,şeriatçı and etc" So,sometimes it is better to be quiet than to speak.But how long will this situation last?

Firstly, citizens generally don't have any problems with each other. But the main problem is with the institutions. Some institutions see themselves as the owner of everything and they also see themselves as priviliged. And their numbers are really limited.

As a citizen of this country I am deprived of a lot of things.Because I am a citizen, and I am not a priviliged person.

As a teacher I am deprived of a lot of social rights, and I am working like a slave for this country. Whatever the state thinks is right must be accepted by me, because I don't have any choices or rights.

As a believer I am also deprived of some rights.The state interferes with all of my religious life. How I should get dressed, how I should believe and etc. This situation is valid for both believers or non-believers or it is valid for both Sunnis, Alevis and etc. İt isn't valid only for me. In modern societies, states don't interfere with people's beliefs.

As a citizen from the east of Turkey, I am having a lot of problems. Because of some unwanted events, I am seen as a potential guilty person. The state or state institutions (even sometimes citizens) can't differentiate this situation. Sometimes we can't tolerate each other. For example; this forum is a language forum. We are discussing every language. We have a lot of language sections in our forum. But I am sure, if we had a Kurdish language section, many of our members would stand agains it. Of course at present I am not in favour of such a section. because we have a long way which we must go. On the day when we understand each other and when all of us understand that this country belongs to all citizens living on it and every citizen has the same rights, then we can talk about our common values.

I am sure-as I said above- after this comment some members will name me with different names, but don't forget that all of us are citizens of this country and nobody must be priviliged. When we pay our taxes, we aren't seperated as Turkish,Kurdish,Çerkez and etc but we are named as the citizens of Turkish Republic.

Perhaps I have gone out of the real matter, if so please forgive me.

When we pay our taxes, we aren't seperated as Turkish,Kurdish,Çerkez and etc but we are named as the citizens of Turkish Republic.

Perhaps I have gone out of the real matter, if so please forgive me.

No, sir you have not gone out of real matter.

And l did wrote Turkish Citizen...;)
And please forgive me :)
Hodeşte razi bi! for your comments.

No, sir you have not gone out of real matter.

And l did wrote Turkish Citizen...;)
And please forgive me :)
Hodeşte razi bi! for your comments.

Hodeşte razi bi! ???:confused::confused:

Hodeşte razi bi! ???:confused::confused:

God Bless You or God Bless You for what you have done in Kurdish.
l am in Siirt and day by day learning Siirt Arabic and Kurdish.

And forgive my writing because l do not know how to write:o